Toby Ball on publishing with St Martin’s Press

Sep 9, 2010 by

cover for Toby Ball's The VaultsToday’s interviewee is Toby Ball, who’s novel The Vaults is coming out with St Martin’s Press on September 14th.

In a dystopian 1930s America, a chilling series of events leads three men down a path to uncover their city’s darkest secret.

At the height of the most corrupt administration in the City’s history, a mysterious duplicate file is discovered deep within the Vaults—a cavernous hall containing all of the municipal criminal justice records of the last seventy years. From here, the story follows: Arthur Puskis, the Vault’s sole, hermit-like archivist with an almost mystical faith in a system to which he has devoted his life; Frank Frings, a high-profile investigative journalist with a self-medicating reefer habit; and Ethan Poole, a socialist private eye with a penchant for blackmail.

All three men will undertake their own investigations into the dark past and uncertain future of the City—calling into question whether their most basic beliefs can be maintained in a climate of overwhelming corruption and conspiracy.

Something I’d like to note quickly; this interview began back in June, hence my first question!

I have to admit, I haven’t got any personal experience in print
publishing. How far through the process are you now? From what I’ve heard, I’m under the impression most of the editing and so on is done fairly early on, and the publisher is involved in the nitty-gritty of store placement, peer reviews, and other pre-promotional stuff. Is that right?

I think it varies quite a bit. My book is basically just waiting to be printed. I’m assuming that you are just getting a sense so you know what questions to ask, so I’ll give a quick answer but will certainly go on in more detail for your blog.

My editor gave me some guidance in a memo and I did a rewrite based on that. It wasn’t a major overhaul, though he said that sometimes it is easy (like my book) and other times there is a lot more back and forth involved. A copy-editor also went through and corrected grammar, spelling, made names consistent, etc. Both my editor and agent got author quotes and my editor walked the book through cover design, print design, etc. I’m just starting to work with the publicity and marketing departments. The sales people work with the bookstores and chains for book placement. We haven’t gotten to that point yet with my book, but should during July/August. I’ll also be getting pre-pub reviews from Publishers Weekly, Kirkus, etc. and also get a sense of who, if any, of the national magazines will be reviewing.

The publicist assigned to me at St. Martin’s is also arranging book signings and hopefully press, etc.There’s a certain amount of talk about trying to build buzz around a book — talking it up with sales reps, bookstores, etc. I’m not completely clear on how that works.

Did you go through an agent, or did you submit directly to your publisher? Either way, what made you decide on St Martin’s?

I spent several years querying agents and working on revisions for The Vaults before I was finally offered representation. It was a very long and frustrating progress, but worthwhile because the agent I ended up with is very well-connected and is a former editor who worked with me to get my manuscript into the best possible shape before submitting (he’s also a great guy).

He submitted to around 20 editors at the big New York houses and St. Martin’s made the best bid. Before they bid, I’d met the editor who eventually bought the manuscript (and a second book, as well) and a couple of other people from St. Martin’s. I felt very comfortable with the editor and he and the others were clearly excited about my book. It was not a difficult decision. Another factor for me was that my editor had worked on and was working on projects that I thought were interesting. I thought that our sensibilities were similar enough that our partnership would be smooth (as it has turned out to be).  One thing that I didn’t realize before this process began was that you are signing with both an editor, who steers your book through the process from manuscript through revisions and the various steps leading to publication, and a publisher, with its staff of publicists, marketers, designers, sales reps, etc. It has worked out well for me, but they are in some ways separate relationships, which is why you see authors following their editors to other publishers or sometimes being left in a kind of limbo if their editor leaves and they don’t or can’t follow.

What were the major milestones for you once you’d been accepted?

After we worked out the contract with St. Martin’s, I had a phone conversation with my editor and he followed up with a one-page memo listing suggested revisions. I spent a couple of months writing another draft based on the memo and that draft was accepted (thankfully).

Several months later I received copy edits which were extremely detailed — making sure that street names and physical characteristics were consistent, occasionally suggesting alternative phrasings, and addressing my sometimes eccentric use of the semicolon. I went through the manuscript and either accepted or rejected the copyeditor’s edits. I probably accepted about 90% of the edits. Copyediting is quite a skill and he/she caught a number of inconsistencies that I managed to miss over the 8 or so drafts that I edited.

The next benchmark was the arrival of page proofs which were in the font and layout of the finished book. Very exciting. I went through those pages looking for misspellings or obvious formatting problems. The main problem that I found was that they had it on the wrong imprint — Minotaur instead of St. Martin’s. Otherwise, everything was fine and the look was great.

The final big production step was the cover, which is both very important and completely beyond your control as an author unless it is really just unacceptable. I was extremely fortunate in that the cover they designed was both visually interesting and very neatly evokes the atmosphere of the book. You can see the cover at my website: tobyball.com.

Since then it has mostly been a matter of waiting for pre-pub reviews and trying to set up publicity and book events. I received a starred review from Publishers Weekly and a more moderate assessment from Booklist (which also gave away the whole plot in their summary).I’ve set up a number of author events in my area and also on the west coast and my publicist will be trying to get reviews in newspapers and magazines.

Of the promotion done so far, what has St Martin’s arranged, and what has fallen to you?

St. Martin’s printed a number of galleys and sent them to magazines, a few major newspapers, and some industry “buzz-makers.” I believe they also had some available at BEA and maybe some other events like that. When the hardcover book is printed, about three weeks prior to release date, they will send to newspapers, other media, book bloggers, and other people they identify or who I request. I worked at a magazine in Washington DC for a number of years and have a fair number of friends in the media and my publicist will coordinate with them when submitting review copies. I’ve also identified som e book bloggers who have agreed to review The Vaullts. But, for the most part, it is the publicity people at St. Martin’s using their contacts and shipping books to try to get reviews.

Arranging book events has been a joint effort. The publicist does all the logistical work – making sure books are at the store, sending promotional materials, contacting local media, etc. – and both she and I have talked to bookstores to arrange events.

Particularly with events, I’ve found that publishing with a big house has – whether rightly or wrongly – given me some credibility with the media and bookstores. As I’m writing this it is too early to know how the reviews will pan out, but my strong sense is that it would be nearly impossible for me to get reviews at most newspapers without the backing of a big house.

Do you have any more books in the works? I know some publishers like the right of first refusal on certain projects; is this so with St Martins, or would you and your agent pitch to other publishers with future books?

The contract that I signed with St. Martin’s was for two books, the first of which was The Vaults. I have delivered the second book and it has been officially “accepted” and is currently awaiting copyediting. My contract gives St. Martin’s the right to have the first look at a proposal for my third book and a period of time in which they either make an offer or don’t. If they do make an offer, I can either accept or put it out to other publishers.

Unlike with The Vaults, I’m not required to submit a full, completed manuscript but can instead submit the first few chapters along with a detailed outline of the rest of the book.

Did you ever consider taking a different route to publication, such as epublishing or self publishing?

I honestly never considered self-publishing and I don’t think I was very aware of the epublishing route in 2008. My goal really was a traditional publisher and if that hadn’t worked with The Vaults my guess is that I would have worked on another manuscript and tried my luck with it.

What formats is St Martin’s releasing The Vaults in?

It’s coming out in hardcover now and then in paperback in about a year. It’s also available on kindle and I would guess other electronic formats as well.

I think that’s everything I wanted to ask. Do you have anything you’d like to add?

I think we’re all set. Thank you so much for letting me be a part of this. I don’t think there’s anything we left out. I know that there is usually some feeling that traditionally published authors look down their nose at their e-published or self-published counterparts. I hope my responses don’t come off that way because I definitely do not feel that way. It’s not a one-size-fits-all industry and there are many legitimate ways to have a book made available to the public.

The Vault is currently available for preorder and will be available for purchase from Amazon, B&N and Powells, as well as independent bookshops throughout the US. Signed copied are available through RiverRun, and the dates and locations for booksignings can be found on Toby’s website.

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